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Why Don’t Any US Airlines Fly The Airbus A330-800neo?

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The Airbus A330-800neo is one of two variants in the Airbus A330neo family, with the other being the A330-900neo. The A330neo is an upgrade over the original A330 variants, with new engines, updated wingtips, interior improvements, and software upgrades. The A330-900, directly succeeding the A330-300, has proven effective and has even found love in the United Statesat Delta Air Lines. Contrastingly, the A330-800 has been shunned in the US.

In some ways, you can consider the start of the A330neo to be the original A350 program. To compete against the Boeing 787, Airbus took the A330 family and added new engines along with a carbon-composite wing and a new cockpit. Airlines largely rejected the concept, prompting Airbus to create a clean-sheet aircraft, the A350 XWB, and move up in size. The A330neo was developed in the 2010s to slot underneath the A350 in price and capability.

The Airlines That Don’t Want The Airbus A330-800

United Airlines Boeing 787-8 at MUC shutterstock_2128453634 Photo: Dirk Daniel Mann | Shutterstock

The A330-800 is Airbus’s smallest widebody, and given that the US is home to more Boeing 767s (a similarly-sized twinjet) than any other nation in the world, you’d expect the European manufacturer to make significant efforts to sell this jet here. However, Airbus hasn’t sold a single A330-800to a US airline. This is especially surprising considering that the prior A330-200 has been reasonably successful in the country, being operated by Delta, Hawaiian, and, previously, American Airlines.

United Airlines currently flies 53 aging Boeing 767s, but has committed to the 787 to replace these planes. Hawaiian Airlines, a current A330-200 operator, ordered Boeing 787-9s to replace its Airbus widebodies, although these planes are now slated to remain in service while the Dreamliners get transferred to Alaska Airlines. For American Airlines, meanwhile, its 767 and A330 fleets were fully retired during the COVID-19 pandemic, with the 787 serving as their replacement.

Only four airlines in the US operate passenger widebodies in scheduled service, and by and large, they have opted for the similarly sized Boeing 787. This is despite the fact that these planes are replacing the Boeing 767 or Airbus A330, which are optimized for medium-haul routes, similar to the Airbus A330neo. Notably, Hawaiian Airlines formerly held orders for six Airbus A330-800s, but cancelled them in favor of the Dreamliners.

Why Delta Air Lines Isn’t Buying Them

Delta Air Lines Airbus A330-900 landing at AMS shutterstock_2467760473 Photo: Minh K Tran | Shutterstock

Delta Air Lines is the largest operator of the Airbus A330-900 in the world and the largest operator of the A330 series as a whole. It operates 11 A330-200s, 31 A330-300s, and 37 A330-900s with two more on order, but has never ordered the A330-800, and has not announced plans to obtain more A330neos. What’s surprising is that the A330-900s were slated to partially replace the Boeing 767-300ER fleet, an aircraft significantly smaller than the A330-900.

You’d expect Delta to replace these aircraft with the A330-800, given that it would be far closer in size to the 767. However, going with the larger A330-900 instead was a conscious choice. Delta is looking to upgauge its entire network, replacing A320s and 737s with A321neos and 737 MAX 10s, while 767s are to be replaced with larger widebodies. Delta is looking to lower per-seat economics, and larger aircraft variants are cheaper to operate per-seat than smaller variants.

Aircraft Types In Service With Delta

Aircraft Types On Order By Delta

Airbus A220-100

Airbus A220-300

Airbus A220-300

Airbus A321neo

Airbus A319-100

Airbus A330-900

Airbus A320-200

Airbus A350-900

Airbus A321-200

Airbus A350-1000

Airbus A321neo

Boeing 737 MAX 10

Airbus A330-200

Airbus A330-300

Airbus A330-900

Airbus A350-900

Boeing 717-200

Boeing 737-800

Boeing 737-900ER

Boeing 757-200

Boeing 757-300

Boeing 767-300ER

Boeing 767-400ER

Delta only has two A330-900s left on order. It’s expected that at least part of its remaining A350 order will displace existing A330-900s that can replace the remaining 767-300ERs, which would again be a system-wide upgauge. Meanwhile, it’s been heavily speculated that the Atlanta-based carrier is looking to order Boeing 787-10s. With a possible delivery date in the early 2030s, these could replace older A330s and the Boeing 767-400ER, while also being a significant upgauge over both types.

Why The Airbus A330-800 Is Not Selling

Kuwait Airways A330-800 landing Photo: Markus Mainka I Shutterstock

In the US, Delta is looking to upgauge its entire network, while other carriers are focusing on the Boeing 787. However, the A330-800 has also sold poorly around the world, with only eight total orders, while the A330-900 has received nearly 440. Seven have already been delivered: four to Kuwait Airways, two to Uganda Airlines, and one to Air Greenland. One more example is reported to have been ordered in an executive configuration.

The A330-800 is a direct replacement for the Airbus A330-200, which, in Delta’s premium-heavy configuration, seats 223 passengers. At the other end of the spectrum, Hawaiian’s leisure-focused A330-200s seat 278. With the new winglets and more efficient Rolls-Royce Trent 7000, the A330-800 now has a range of 8,100 NM (15,000 km) at a Maximum Takeoff Weight of 251 tonnes, and this is the issue.

Delta’s Widebody Fleet

Capacity

Boeing 767-300ER (76L)

211

Boeing 767-300ER (76K)

216

Airbus A330-200

223

Boeing 767-400ER

238

Airbus A350-900 (35H)

275

Airbus A330-900

281

Airbus A330-300

282

Airbus A350-900 (359)

306

The A330-200 that the A330-800 is based on was developed as a shrink of the original A330-300 (replaced by the A330-900). As such, the A330-200/800 is more expensive to operate per-seat than its larger counterparts. In the past, the A330-200 sold due to its additional range, but as the A330-300 grew more capable, sales for the A330-200 dried up. With the A330-900 now having up to 7,350 NM (13,600 km) of range, almost no airline is willing to sacrifice economics for the extra miles.

The Decline Of Short-Fuselage Variants

Boeing 737-7 MAX displaying at the Farnborough International Airshow in July 2018.-1 Photo: Wirestock Creators | Shutterstock

In airliner design, manufacturers typically create the base design (Airbus A320, Boeing 757-200, Airbus A330-300, Boeing 777-200), then they will either shrink the fuselage (Airbus A319, Airbus A330-200) or stretch the fuselage (Boeing 757-300, Boeing 777-300). Shrinking typically results in a more capable plane with higher per-seat costs, while a stretched variant boasts the best per-seat costs but also has less range.

Manufacturers don’t always develop their aircraft in this manner (both Airbus A350 variants are optimized for their size), but this is typically how commercial aircraft are designed. This approach generally proved successful, as the A330-200 made up 46% of passenger A330ceo sales, while the A319, A320, and A321 were all popular. For first-generation A320 variants, only the A318 was a sales flop, with this variant being a shrink of a shrink.

Today, however, the A330-800 is far from the only reengined shrink that’s been unpopular. The A319neo has only received 57 orders, while slightly over 300 orders have been received for the Boeing 737 MAX 7. The 777-8’s development has been paused, and even sales for the Boeing 787-8 have slowed down dramatically. As the larger version of an airliner becomes more capable, such as during a re-engine program, demand for the shrink disappears.

Why Airbus Doesn’t Care About Selling A330-800s

Airbus A330-800 departing Toulouse Blagnac Airport (TLS) shutterstock_1579843531 Photo: EA Photography | Shutterstock

From a manufacturer’s position, a shrink allows you to capture a broader segment of the market by addressing the shortcomings of the original model. However, such jets are priced lower than a larger model, but cost practically the same to produce, thereby generating lower profit margins. Manufacturers prefer to sell larger variants whenever possible, as they generate the highest profits.

When significant demand exists for a smaller aircraft that is more capable, manufacturers will price it competitively. The sale price is a significant component in whether an airliner wins an order, and, as such, selling an A330-200 may have yielded lower profits than an A330-300 in the past, but this was still preferable over losing an order to the Boeing 767.

With the A330-800, however, airlines aren’t lining up to buy it, and Airbus spent little on developing it. The A330-900 captures nearly all of the market, and this variant generates higher profit margins. As such, Airbus is incentivized to price the A330-900 competitively, while the A330-800 has low demand and generates lower profits, so Airbus likely budges little on pricing. This lowers demand for the A330-800 even further, but Airbus would still rather sell more A330-900s.

The Bottom LineKuwait Airways A330-800 Taking Off

The Airbus A330-800 has been sold to three airlines. This is the only widebody in Air Greenland’s fleet and is used for flights to Copenhagen, directly replacing an Airbus A330-200. For Kuwait Airways and Uganda Airlines, the type serves as a small, efficient, cheap widebody that has incredible capability. Kuwait Airways also operates the A330-900, making it easier for the airline to integrate it into the fleet.

While the A330-800 has so far proven a sales dud, Airbus is not focused on the variant’s individual orderbook. Rather, Airbus aims to make money on the A330neo program as a whole, and selling more A330-900s appears to be a winning strategy for the European planemaker. As such, the A330-800 will likely go down as one of the industry’s rarest birds, similar to other reengined shrinks like the Airbus A319neo.

First Flight Date

6 November 2018

Length

58.82 m (192 ft 11 in)

Wingspan

64.00 m (210 ft) with new A350-style winglets

Height

17.39 m (57 ft 1 in)

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Airbus

ICAO Code

A338


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How Many 787s Does Boeing Produce Annually?

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The Boeing 787 Dreamliner (specifically the Boeing 787-9 variant) is currently the most popular widebody aircraft on the market. It was built to replace the Boeing 767, complement the Boeing 777, and compete with the Airbus A330 (now A330neo) and the A350 that entered service four years after the Dreamliner. It also helped to doom the Airbus A380 as well as the Boeing 747-8i.

Even though Boeing slashed production of the 787 during the pandemic by shutting the assembly line in Seattle, it is currently being delivered in higher numbers than other widebody aircraft. Boeing is also working to expand its production in North Charleston, South Carolina, and ramp up production. Here is what to know about the Boeing 787’s deliveries in 2025 and beyond.

The Number Of Boeing 787s Delivered By Mid-2025

An EVA Air Boeing 787 Dreamliner taxiing at Taoyuan International Airport with another EVA Air aircraft partially visible in the foreground. Photo: eric1207cvb | Shutterstock

As of mid-2025, Boeing’s records show it has a total unfulfilled backlog of 993 Boeing 787s on order from a total of 2,199 firm orders. This has made the Boeing 787 the best-selling widebody aircraft in history. But while Boeing wins that accolade, Airbus’ A320 family is the best-selling commercial jet in history and is becoming the most delivered commercial jet.

When it comes to deliveries, Boeing has delivered 399 of its 787-8 variant Dreamliners, 681 of its mid-sized 787-9s, and 126 of the 787-10s. That is a total of 1,206 Boeing 787s delivered since the first example entered service in 2011. While the rival Airbus A350, which entered service in 2015, has proven to be a popular aircraft, the Dreamliner has continued to outperform it in both orders and deliveries. A total of 1,428 A350s have been ordered, of which 669 have been delivered.

Orders for the Dreamliner continue to roll in, and in 2025, Boeing has amassed a total of 243 new orders for its Dreamliners. These are thanks in large part to Qatar Airways, which ordered 120 new 787s, while British Airways and Korean Air have also placed substantial orders. All orders have been for its 787-9 and 787-10 variants, and none are for the 787-8.

Boeing’s Past Dreamliner Delivery Rate

Boeing employees work on a Boeing 787 Dreamliner for delivery in Dublin Ireland. Photo: Peter Krocka | Shutterstock

Before the pandemic, the Boeing 787 was delivered in much larger numbers. Boeing was building them in both Everett in Seattle, and in North Charleston. In 2019, the last “normal” production year for the Dreamliner, Boeing delivered a total of 158 aircraft. In 2020, that dropped to just 53 and to only 14 examples in 2021. In the pandemic, Boeing shut down its Seattle assembly line for the 787.

In 2022, deliveries recovered somewhat to 31 examples and grew to around half the prepandemic rate of 73 in 2023. 2024 was another bad year for Boeing deliveries, with its total deliveries falling back to just 348 commercial aircraft (Airbus delivered 766 that year). In 2024, Boeing delivered 51 Dreamliners, although it has delivered 45 by mid-year 2025.

Boeing 787 Dreamliner deliveries by year since 2019 (per Boeing)

2019

158

2024

51

2020

53

2025 (mid-year)

45

2021

14

2025 (estimated)

75-80

2022

31

Planned end of 2025 rate

84 (seven per month)

2023

73

Total delivered (mid-2025)

1,206

While 2019 was the last “normal” production year for the Dreamliner, 2018 was the last “normal” year for Boeing’s commercial aircraft overall. In 2019, the second Boeing 737 MAX crashed, and Boeing’s deliveries have not recovered since. From 2015-2017, Boeing delivered between 748 and 763 aircraft, rising to 806 in 2018. Since then, the most it has delivered was in 2023, when it shipped 528 aircraft.

Boeing’s Planned 2025 Dreamliner Deliveries

ANA All Nippon Airways Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner passenger plane at Vienna Airport. Photo: Soos Jozsef | Shutterstock

According to Flight Plan, Boeing plans to ramp up production of the 787 to seven aircraft monthly by the end of 2025. Previously, Boeing’s 787 production rate was five a month. For Boeing, one big issue presently is Lufthansa’s Allegris seating, where some of its new business class seats lack FAA certification.

At the start of 2025, Boeing projected deliveries of 75 to 80 Dreamliners in 2025. That number includes both new-build jets and those currently in inventory that it has been unable to deliver. At the start of 2025, Boeing had an estimated 25 Boeing 787s built in previous years but stored before delivery. If those jets are delivered, then Boeing’s 2025 production would be 50-55 new aircraft.

787 orders and deliveries per Boeing mid-2025

Boeing 787-8

Boeing 787-9

Boeing 787-10

Total

Total number ordered (per Boeing, may include orders later canceled)

671

1,557

433

2,661 (2,199 firm orders)

Total delivered

399

681

126

1,206

Back order (July 2025)

28

695

270

993

Given that Boeing managed to deliver 45 Dreamliners in the first half of 2025 and its annual production is around 36 over that period, it suggests Boeing has managed to move some of its stored aircraft. However, these do not appear to be Lufthansa aircraft, as Boeing does not list having made any deliveries to Lufthansa in the first six months. Lufthansa is known to have around 15 Boeing 787s built, but refused delivery on account of the FAA not granting the needed certification.

Ramping Up Boeing 787 Deliveries

American 787-8 shutterstock_2618315247 Photo: Robin Guess | Shutterstock

In 2019, Boeing was delivering the Dreamliner at a rate of 14 per month; by the start of 2025, that was just five per month, with plans to increase it to seven per month. Even so, that is only half of the pre-pandemic levels. Part of the issue is that Boeing is trying to restore its world-class quality control to its aircraft to ensure things like the Boeing 737 MAX crashes and the Alaska Airlines door plug blowout don’t happen again.

In August 2025, Leeham News stated the $1 billion expansion of its Charleston production site that will double the final assembly line capacity for the 787. It adds that Boeing has reached a rate of seven 787s per month and now plans to produce them at a rate of ten per month sometime in 2026. After that, it plans to continue ramping up production beyond what it achieved in 2019.

Boeing 787 Dreamliner production rate

Beginning 2025

5 per month

End 2025

7 per month

2026

10 per month

From 2028

16 per month (available capacity)

Leeham News says that when the expansion is finished in 2028, Boeing will have the capacity to reach a rate of 16 per month. If Boeing could deliver the aircraft at a rate of 16 per month, that would translate to 192 aircraft a year.

Story Of The Boeing 787-8

United Airlines Boeing 787-8 departing AMS shutterstock_2463829395 Photo: Minh K Tran | Shutterstock

The Boeing 787-8 was the first to debut, and it attracted a large percentage of the orders. However, the 787-9 hit the market in 2014, and since then it has attracted more orders, with new orders for the Boeing 787-8 drying up over time. Boeing only has 28 orders for the 787-8 remaining on its order book, over half (15) of which are for Emirates.

Since 2020, Boeing has only recorded eight new orders for the 787-8 variant. This suggests that the Boeing 787-8 may soon go out of production. Increased Dreamliner production means more 787-9s and 787-10s and not 787-8s. One of the reasons why the 787-9 is more popular is that the wings are better optimized for that variant than the 787-8 or 787-10.

Boeing 787-8

Boeing 787-9

Boeing 787-10

Range

7,305 nautical miles

7,565 nautical miles

6,330 nautical miles

Typical 3-class seating

248

296

336

Length

186 feet

206 feet

224 feet

The 787-9 is the longest ranged variant with a range of 7,565 nautical miles, compared with the 787-8’s 7,305 nautical mile range and the 787-10’s reduced 6,330 nautical mile range. The 787-8 is being outcompeted by both the 787-9 and the cheaper-to-operate but still large and long-range Airbus A321XLR. The A321XLR comes with a range of 4,700 nautical miles.

Boeing 787 Dreamliner Production To Recover By 2028

Air New Zealand 787-9 shutterstock_239607589 Photo: Mehdi Photos | Shutterstock

After a decade-long dip in production due to the pandemic and lingering concerns with Boeing’s quality controls, the Dreamliner appears set to meet and even exceed its previous delivery rates around 2028. In 2025, the Dreamliner’s deliveries will remain around half that of pre-pandemic numbers but above that of 2024.

The 2025 final delivery rate will hinge to some degree on when Boeing can move the already-built Lufthansa Dreamliners and any others it has lying around. The future appears bright for the Dreamliner (except the 787-8) with large numbers of orders continuing to be placed and Boeing looking to restore its previously high levels of production. One of the major areas of uncertainty for the Dreamliner and Boeing aircraft in general is the ongoing trade war.

In March 2025, the CEO of the massive aircraft lessor, AerCap, stated that in a “worst case” scenario with reciprocal tariffs being placed, Boeing would be cut out of the international market. Airbus would take the world’s aviation market, leaving Boeing with the United States. In June, China banned its airlines from accepting Boeing aircraft and even returned some that had been delivered. And yet, in August, there are rumors that China may be about to place a large order for 500 Boeing aircraft. The bottom line is that the situation is turbulent and unpredictable.

Boeing(B)

Stock Code

BA

Business Type

Planemaker

Date Founded

July 15, 1916

CEO

Kelly Ortberg


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